DECstation-Managers Information and Rules

1. Send only Ultrix DECstation management queries and summaries to decstation-managers@ornl.gov. Include your return address in the body of your message so people can reply directly to you. Avoid MIME and HTML--many people can't read them.

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10. If it is not technical and specifically related to DECstation management, then it does not belong on this list. Requests for vendor recommendations are tolerated, provided that the hardware in question is something that system managers normally purchase.

11. Requests for software (free or otherwise) should be limited to software that is directly related to DECstation management.

12. Employment related articles do not belong on this list. Job openings and resumes should be posted to the relevant *.jobs or *.resumes newsgroups.

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16. Other forums that relate to DECstations:

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