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Re: slowly moving to qmail from smail

On Mon, 2 Feb 1998, Paul Miller wrote:

> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 23:12:59 -0500 (EST)
> From: Paul Miller <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: Michael Samuel <michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: QMail <djb-qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: slowly moving to qmail from smail
> 
> On Mon, 2 Feb 1998, Michael Samuel wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 2 Feb 1998, Paul Miller wrote:
> > 
> > > Tell me if this is a good plan:
> > > 
> > > 1) add .qmail files to all user home directories.  the .qmail file
> > > contains "| preline /usr/bin/procmail"
> > > 2) get rid of smail
> > > 3) start qmail (Maildir support)
> > 
> > Ok, so at this step, try this command line:
> > 
> > qmail-start "|test -d ./Maildir || maildirmake ./Maildir || exit 111
> > ./Maildir/" splogger qmail &
> > 
> > *grin*
> > 
> > (Russ, I don't know who came up with this one, but this definately belongs
> > in the tips section on qmail.org)
> 
> ...I don't think qmail needs to check everytime it delivers mail..  maybe
> it would be better placed in a new user script/directory.
> 
> 
> > > 4) make sure qmail and Debian's procmail are working + locks work..
> > 
> > ? Nahh, bite the bullet and do it all at once.  Who cares if you have half
> > an hour downtime, when you will never have downtime again :-)
> 
> hmmm.. when I ran qmail w/ the Debian procmail command line it had lots of
> problems w/ locking...  when I ran qmail w/ the maildir command line and
> used the .qmail file, procmail & locking worked perfectly.
> 
> 
> > > 5) slowly create Maildirs in each user home directory
> > 
> > Get one of the convert-and-create scripts, and it will convert the entire
> > /var/spool/mail/* into Maildirs in the user's homedirs.
> > 
> > > 6) apply pine/qmail patches 
> > 
> > Yep, works like a charm, and will still read mbox etc. (it will
> > automaticly determine, based on what format the mailbox that $MAIL points
> > to)
> > 
> > > 7) reconfigure cfingure for Maildir support (how ???)
> > 
> > cfingure?  Do you mean a fingerd, or is this something else?
> 
> cfingerd.  here is the Debian description of it:
> 
> cfingerd - Configurable and secure finger daemon
> 
> This is a free and secure finger daemon replacement for standard finger
> daemons such as GNU fingerd, or MIT fingerd. Cfingerd can enable/disable
> finger service to individual users, rather than to all users on a given
> host.  Cfingerd is able to respond to a finger request to a specified user
> by running a shell script (e.g., finger doorbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx might
> cause a sound file to be sent) rather than just a plain text file.
> 
> anyone know if there are patches for this progran?

What business does an anonymous fingerer have knowing if the user has
mail?

If cfingerd is so configurable, disable the mail checking. (And you may
also want empty requests to be rejected too)

> 
> 
> > > 8) reconfigure login for Maildir support (how ??? -- it won't me login
> > > when QMAIL_DIR is defined)
> > 
> > It should, but I already have Maildirs, so it might not be too sensitive
> > if you don't.
> 
> it still kicks me off...  right when I login, it disconnects me..???

Hmm... It works fine for me.  Try getting a different version of shadow.

> 
> 
> > > 10) convert all /var/spool/mail/* mailboxes to $HOME/Maildir's
> > > 11) add qmail-pop3 to inetd.conf.
> > 
> > For now, but I think ucspi-tcp will be better.  See
> > http://www.surfnetcity.com.au/~michael/qmail-antirelay.html, that covers
> > ucspi-tcp installation step-by-step (If it's missing any, please tell me)
> 
> what is ucspi-tcp?  ... it doesn't say anything about pop3..

It's a (more) secure version of inetd.  It runs services like pop3, smtp
etc. intead of inetd.

The FAQ has some details on configuring it to work with pop3 and smtp,
and it is GREAT with wu-ftpd. (You get better speed that NcFTPd!)

> 
> So far everything is working great (except the login thing).

Great! Welcome to qmail land, where complicated tasks are easy, and easy
tasks are even easier :-)

> 
> Thanks
> Paul
> 
> 
> 
> 

Michael Samuel,

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